Reformed Theology What are your views on large-scale government welfare?  Calvinism

What are your views on large-scale government welfare?

Reformed Theology What are your views on large-scale government welfare?  Calvinism
What are your views on large-scale government welfare?

I interpret Jesus to be an apocalyptic prophet of the new age. Much of his ethic was therefore meant for the transition between the end of one age and the beginning of another. In that sense his teachings about leaving one's family, about always watching for the signs of the times, about giving up all possessions, about never resisting an evil person, about rejecting all worldly cares, etc. are not directly for those inhabiting the current age. (Although we certainly have a lot to learn from Jesus about obedience to God) Jesus' teachings did not come out of a progressive spirit, but out of Jewish apocalypticism.

For those who don't accept this as Jesus' context, the progressive vision of Jesus has in my view strong exegetical grounds. Jesus did have radical views about money, violence, the family, and outsiders; views that, on the surface, align with progressive politics.

Because of this, one of the things progressive followers of Jesus push for is larger and larger spending on welfare. They believe that in doing so they are carrying on the mission of Jesus.

At the same time, it seems to me that people in the West are given more by the government (including security) and benefit more from technology than at any other point in history. The West is also at the same time more spiritually weak and morally undisciplined than at any other time in its history.

Admitting then that my assumption is that large-scale welfare states are not sustainable, but rather create societal problems down the road, I get the impression from Israel's wanderings in the wilderness that the West is trying to enter into the good life at the cost of later generations. Jesus' teachings are being used to support this.

All that to ask, what is your response to the desire among progressive Christians for a large welfare state? Should we be concerned about the consequences down the road? Further, are there more immediate moral consequences?

I interpret Jesus to be an apocalyptic prophet of the new age. Much of his ethic was therefore meant for the transition between the end of one age and the beginning of another. In that sense his teachings about leaving one’s family, about always watching for the signs of the times, about giving up all possessions, about never resisting an evil person, about rejecting all worldly cares, etc. are not directly for those inhabiting the current age. (Although we certainly have a lot to learn from Jesus about obedience to God) Jesus’ teachings did not come out of a progressive spirit, but out of Jewish apocalypticism.For those who don’t accept this as Jesus’ context, the progressive vision of Jesus has in my view strong exegetical grounds. Jesus did have radical views about money, violence, the family, and outsiders; views that, on the surface, align with progressive politics.Because of this, one of the things progressive followers of Jesus push for is larger and larger spending on welfare. They believe that in doing so they are carrying on the mission of Jesus.At the same time, it seems to me that people in the West are given more by the government (including security) and benefit more from technology than at any other point in history. The West is also at the same time more spiritually weak and morally undisciplined than at any other time in its history.Admitting then that my assumption is that large-scale welfare states are not sustainable, but rather create societal problems down the road, I get the impression from Israel’s wanderings in the wilderness that the West is trying to enter into the good life at the cost of later generations. Jesus’ teachings are being used to support this.All that to ask, what is your response to the desire among progressive Christians for a large welfare state? Should we be concerned about the consequences down the road? Further, are there more immediate moral consequences?
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Reformed Theology Is God violent?  Calvinism

Is God violent?

Reformed Theology Is God violent?  Calvinism
Is God violent?

Certain authors like Brian Zahnd and Greg Boyd argue that Christ's nonviolent teachings and nonviolent submission to evildoers indicate that God Himself does not use violence. They believe that God's character (and nature) must be reevaluated in light of the revelation of God as the crucified Jesus. Thus for them, the violent imagery used to depict God in the Old and New Testaments must be reinterpreted through what is known about God: that He submits to human violence and does not retaliate. How do you respond to this line of reasoning?

Certain authors like Brian Zahnd and Greg Boyd argue that Christ’s nonviolent teachings and nonviolent submission to evildoers indicate that God Himself does not use violence. They believe that God’s character (and nature) must be reevaluated in light of the revelation of God as the crucified Jesus. Thus for them, the violent imagery used to depict God in the Old and New Testaments must be reinterpreted through what is known about God: that He submits to human violence and does not retaliate. How do you respond to this line of reasoning?
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Reformed Theology What was Jesus' relation to the biblical purity regulations? (Leviticus 11-15)  Calvinism

What was Jesus’ relation to the biblical purity regulations? (Leviticus 11-15)

Reformed Theology What was Jesus' relation to the biblical purity regulations? (Leviticus 11-15)  Calvinism
What was Jesus’ relation to the biblical purity regulations? (Leviticus 11-15)

Did Jesus perform the biblical offerings/rituals required to cleanse himself prior to entering the Temple? Did he teach others to do so?

Did Jesus perform the biblical offerings/rituals required to cleanse himself prior to entering the Temple? Did he teach others to do so?
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Reformed Theology I'm a conservative annihilationist unitarian Christian. AMA  Calvinism

I’m a conservative annihilationist unitarian Christian. AMA

Reformed Theology I'm a conservative annihilationist unitarian Christian. AMA  Calvinism
I’m a conservative annihilationist unitarian Christian. AMA

By conservative I mean primarily that I affirm a version of Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, and the avenging justice of God. I have little sympathy for liberal readings of the Bible.

By annihilationist I mean that the judgement of the faithless will ultimately result in death and non-existence.

By unitarian I mean that I believe only the Father is YHWH God. Jesus is YHWH's anointed Son, the king of Israel.

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