Reformed Theology The resurrection of fallen pastors  Calvinism

The resurrection of fallen pastors

Reformed Theology The resurrection of fallen pastors  Calvinism
The resurrection of fallen pastors

So I come to this group again looking for some wisdom and insight-help with processing some things.

Without going into great detail, I've grown up in church and in ministry. I could run a church business meeting at 12, preached my first sermon at 14. I geek out over ministry and preaching–listen to sermons like most listen to music. I have full time ministry aspirations–but if I'm being honest, the last few years, seeing some men I really looked up to as pastors and leaders fall, has really shaken me.

But to be more specific for the sake of this thread, one of the things I've found myself focusing on more lately isn't the fall or pastors, but what repentance, recovery, and return to ministry should look like for these individuals. I grew up in a church with some bad theology and practices (see preaching to the church at 14 above.) While my view of him may be different now, I can't deny the fact that Mark Driscoll's teaching helped change, grow, and shape my theology-for which I'm greatly indebted to him. But I cringe watching him teach and flood social media with posts. It like he is trying so hard to regain what he lost, but I don't see any humility, transparency, or change there. In one way its almost a cringe of sympathy. I've seen Perry Noble has returned to "preaching" again recently. I cringe the same way with him even though I was never a fan of his, I kept up with him as I have family members who enjoy him and attend NewSpring modeled churches. If I recall, both of these men only took about 30 days away before moving on.

I guess what I'm pondering is, what should this restoration process look like? Also, should there be some publicity to the recovery process seeing as their ministries were so public? I've heard people say that, but I also would appreciate seeing a long absence from the public forum in an effort to focus on restoration. I was stunned by the Darrin Patrick news last year, having sit under his leadership in network, but I appreciate the fact I haven't heard anything from him since then.

I apologize for being scatter-brained. I have just had this issue on my mind a lot and I'm trying to process it.

So I come to this group again looking for some wisdom and insight-help with processing some things.

Without going into great detail, I've grown up in church and in ministry. I could run a church business meeting at 12, preached my first sermon at 14. I geek out over ministry and preaching–listen to sermons like most listen to music. I have full time ministry aspirations–but if I'm being honest, the last few years, seeing some men I really looked up to as pastors and leaders fall, has really shaken me.

But to be more specific for the sake of this thread, one of the things I've found myself focusing on more lately isn't the fall or pastors, but what repentance, recovery, and return to ministry should look like for these individuals. I grew up in a church with some bad theology and practices (see preaching to the church at 14 above.) While my view of him may be different now, I can't deny the fact that Mark Driscoll's teaching helped change, grow, and shape my theology-for which I'm greatly indebted to him. But I cringe watching him teach and flood social media with posts. It like he is trying so hard to regain what he lost, but I don't see any humility, transparency, or change there. In one way its almost a cringe of sympathy. I've seen Perry Noble has returned to "preaching" again recently. I cringe the same way with him even though I was never a fan of his, I kept up with him as I have family members who enjoy him and attend NewSpring modeled churches. If I recall, both of these men only took about 30 days away before moving on.

I guess what I'm pondering is, what should this restoration process look like? Also, should there be some publicity to the recovery process seeing as their ministries were so public? I've heard people say that, but I also would appreciate seeing a long absence from the public forum in an effort to focus on restoration. I was stunned by the Darrin Patrick news last year, having sit under his leadership in network, but I appreciate the fact I haven't heard anything from him since then.

I apologize for being scatter-brained. I have just had this issue on my mind a lot and I'm trying to process it.

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Submitted March 06, 2017 at 08:28PM by TL3903